Showing posts with label Antietam. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Antietam. Show all posts

Tuesday, October 13, 2009

Symposium Presenters

First off let me apologize for not providing a full recap of what each presenter said. I took notes not to provide a verbatim account here, I took notes mostly of things I thought were important or thought provoking.

The first speaker was Russel Beatie and he covered the corps structure in the Army of the Potomac from the its beginnings through the battle of Gettysburg with some discussion of how it would look on the eve of the 1864 Virginia campaign.

Beatie said a few things I do not agree with, that's the beauty of an event like this, you can talk to him immediately about why he came to conclusions he did. The first thing he said I didn't agree with is that Lincoln was an "abomination as a military president." I think Lincoln did struggle figuring out how to be commander in chief, trying to be hands off at times but then thinking he needed to very hands on at other times. I'm not going to say he didn't make mistakes but he did pilot the Union to victory. Might it have come sooner if he made some better decisions? Possibly. Beatie pointed out that giving army commands to Pope, Hooker and Burnside showed Lincoln's poor personnel decisions, but on the other hand when he made those decisions he did not have a huge pool of leaders to choose from. Beatie also said that only experience identifies people who are qualified; Lincoln never figured it out while Grant and Meade did. Again, I don't think this is a 100% fair attack on Lincoln as some of his greater blunders in picking leaders came early in the war when the level of experience was low across the board. As the war progresses he does pick Meade and Grant for higher commands, so if Grant and Meade are his examples of leaders who picked good subordinates than shouldn't Lincoln get some credit for putting those two men in high command?


One thing Beatie said that I found somewhat funny is that Burnside was the worst performance at Antietam. I found this humorous because I don't agree with him, but also because the next presenter, Stephen Recker, said that Burnside was the hero of Antietam since he was the only corps commander to take the position he was ordered to take.

Recker used a prototype of Virtual Antietam during his presentation (Virtual Gettysburg is already done and sold well at the event) and it was amazing to see. If my own budget wasn't so tight right now I probably would have left with a copy of Virtual Gettysburg and had my name on a list for Virtual Antietam.

He focused on Burnside's final attack, calling it the Pickett's Charge of Antietam. Basing this on numbers involved and the ground covered. Another thing he said was that if the Union had captured Nicodemus Heights on the 16th there probably would not have been a battle at all. He thought this was probably the lost opportunity of the battle.


Next up was Bradley Gottfried who went through the best and worst performing brigades at Gettysburg. There were many reasons a brigade might fall into either category. They might benefit from a strong position on the ground, or have high moral. Or they might be fresh troops, attacking a tough position, or their commander might not be very good.

The slides moved too quick for me to take copious notes of the good and bad brigades but I did manage to write a few down. Gottfried gave high marks to Perrin, Vincent, Stannard, McCandless, Greene and the Iron Brigade. Some of the poor performers were Mahone, Smith, Fisher, Brockenbrough, Ames and von Gilsa.


Lance Herdegen then talked about the Iron Brigade from their inception through Gettysburg. This was a talk I was looking forward to as my family is all from Wisconsin and I've always enjoyed reading about the Iron Brigade's exploits. So I mostly sat back and soaked it all in and took very few notes. Luckily the college was videotaping the entire day so later I might be able to post some clips here.


Our final presenter was Tim Smith, a Western Theater historian who also has done a ton of work on the history of preservation and the formation of the battlefields into national parks. The method of preservation at Antietam, mainly buying roadways and not much other land, is usually called the Antietam Plan but Smith argues that it should be called the Chattanooga Plan as that is where it was first implemented. At Chattanooga it was the method used mostly because there were few large tracts left to buy in the 1890s, the town had grown over the battlefield already, while at Antietam the decision was based more on financial concerns. The other main method in the 1890s was buying close to 100% of the battlefield, as was done at Chickamauga (and later at Shiloh). Gettysburg was a bit of a hybrid of both methods as there are areas that large chunks of land were purchased and there are other areas were small strips were purchased.

Friday, October 26, 2007

Antietam Video

As promised earlier here is the intro to Mike's Antietam video. He has also loaded his entire movie on his youtube site . It is loaded in 7 parts due to youtube file size constraints but it is all there.

Mike does a wonderful job, I'm not just saying that because he is a friend, he really does have a talent for this, check out his work and I'm sure you'll agree. His entire Spotsylvania County movie is on youtube and he has portions of his Gettysburg and Chickamauga movies on there as well.

Friday, October 12, 2007

Antietam Video

Last night Mike presented his video of the study group's Antietam trip to the Rocky Mountain Civil War Round. It was another fabulous production except for referring to me as Crash in the credits, geez you smash up one car and you get labeled Crash.

He is putting sections of the movie online on his youtube site . The Antietam portions are not up yet but he'll get them up soon (although I don't think it will happen until sometime next week, but I'll keep you informed). Clips from his older movies (Chickamauga, Gettysburg and Spotsylvania County) are already on his youtube site for you to peruse now.

Thursday, October 4, 2007

Antietam Video

Some of you might know that this blog started following the Rocky Mountain Civil War Round Table's study group trip to Antietam (geez that's a mouthful). I had too many pictures and stories to share than I could fit in the round table's newsletter (I am the newsletter editor). So I made this blog and since then have branched off into many other topics, but with a lot of battlefield photography. My buddy Mike was my travel partner, though after we blew an engine and wrecked a second car I'm sure we were both wondering who was the bad luck charm, and he put together an amazing video of our travels. He does this with every trip and its mostly a battlefield documentary but does have a segment on the travels.



Next Thursday (October 11) at the round table's monthly meeting Mike will present his video. He also has some clips of older movies available on his youtube site and has promised that Antietam clips will be posted in the near future. I will also have a clip available on here some time next week.

Tuesday, May 22, 2007

Antietam Sunset

My posts on Antietam have finally come to a close and a sunset seemed a fitting end. I'm not saying this will be my final Antietam post ever, just that for now I'm done. I'll revisit it as a topic in the future as the mood strikes. I'm not sure what tomorrow's post will bring, I might start another group of themed posts or I might be a bit more random for awhile.

These cannons are in the Confederate rear at the Sunken Road. The Piper Orchard is just over the crest. A ranger said that these guns are probably the closest to the spot that Longstreet's staff operated a battery at, but this isn't the spot. Matt, who often acted as our guide, (and a better guide would be hard to find as Matt is always challenging us to think beyond what hindsight tells us, "put yourselves in their shoes and judge the decisions by what they knew when") pointed out that these guns are silhouetted. This is actually a very bad placement for artillery. They provide too good of a target for the attacking infantry. I pointed out that while that is true in their current placement they provide a wonderful sunset shot.

Mike and I got this shot before the group arrived. The rays were breaking through the clouds perfectly. A little crimson can be seen on the horizon. We stayed a bit longer and it never improved beyond this. But I think this is still a pretty nice shot.

Rocky Mtn CW Roundtable at Antietam

As I wrapup my posts on Antietam I thought I'd share some pictures of the fine gentlemen I had the pleasure of sharing the field with.

This is Ray and I walking through a corn field near the tower. I am on the right.
Here is Mike with his camera rig. The harness is designed to minimize vibration and make everything look smooth. The headphones he's wearing were connected to a wireless mic that I wore. It probably took the group a day and a half before they realized I had on a mic.
Here the group is looking towards the right flank of the Union attack on the Sunken Road. A moment before everyone was pointing but I just missed that shot. From right to left its: Jim, just the front part of Bob, Larry, Matt, Ned (behind Matt), Dave, Craig (in the yellow hat) and Ray.
The group trudges down a path along the final attack trail. From right to left its: Ray, Gary, Bob, Wayne, Larry and Matt.
And our group picture taken at Burnside's Bridge. Back row, right to left: Wayne, Jim, Ian, Dave, Bob, Ray, Larry and Gary (my dad). Kneeling, right to left: Nick (me), Mike, Ned, Matt and Craig. A great bunch of guys.

Monday, May 21, 2007

A few more monuments at Antietam

As mentioned in previous posts I am fascinated by the reliefs on the monuments. The regiment added a relief to tell their story better than words could. Some battlefields have more of these than others. It seems to me that Chickamauga and Antietam probably have more of these than most other battlefields.

This one is on the 20th New York's monument near the Visitor's Center and shows the regiment entering combat. They were known as the Turner Rifles, obviously a German name, and there is a second monument to the regiment in the national cemetery.

The Burnside's Bridge area has the largest concentration of these reliefs. This on shows the 11th Connecticut fighting for the bridge.
This one shows the 16th Connecticut crossing the bridge.
And here is the 51st Pennsylvania attacking the bridge.

Maryland Monument

The Maryland monument is one of those striking monuments. It has a nice design and a nice location. I have a ton of pictures of it because it lends itself to great pictures. (Check out the sunrise post for a nice shot of this monument at sunrise) Another thing I like about the monument is that it has multiple relief panels. I always find these fascinating. Often the level of workmanship and artistry is amazing. The panels at Antietam seem to be in much better condition than Chickamauga, which also has quite a few of these.
I think this one is fascinating because it shows two cannon right at Burnside's Bridge. Certainly there were cannon in the area that were part of the fighting but there was never any cannon that close to the bridge, at least I don't recall reading of that. But this way it seems more heroic or a tougher feat to capture the bridge since those cannon were right next to the bridge. The other reliefs I don;t know enough about to say if they contain more inaccuracies. I do find it interesting that everyone in a panel seems to wear the exact same hat.



Sunday, May 20, 2007

Irish Brigade Monument

The Irish Brigade monument is another new monument and is one of my favorites. I like it because it has a good amount of information and a wonderful relief on the front showing the brigade going into combat. The back side has a portrait of Brigadier General Thomas Meagher. My only worry is that the monument is in such a prominent location that tons of people see it and there are tons of opportunities for someone to damage the intricate relief. I see these kinds of monuments on many battlefields and after 100 years various parts of the monument have been broken off, I don't want to see that happen here. Here are various pictures of the monument with several focusing on the amazing relief.




Saturday, May 19, 2007

A Few of My Favorite Monuments

This monument of Lee is a new monument and if I remember the story correctly it was initially placed on private land near the Middle Bridge but the park now owns this spot. And the park isn't exactly ecstatic about a Lee monument in this area as its really representing a pre battle event but the general public probably doesn't realize this and so it confuses more than it educates. The monument itself is nice and from this angle it almost looks like Lee is riding around the fence. Of course the sizes are not quite right but Lee isn't quite at the fence either.
Here is a detail from the McKinley monument. Its a bit odd to have a monument with the chief action being the delivery of coffee but I guess when you're president you can get any kind of monument erected for you. This is also a somewhat odd monument. I guess the intention is that this replicates a cooking exercise, however, I highly doubt that any soldiers used muskets to suspend their cooking kettle. There is too much risk of destroying your rifle so you'd have to use discarded muskets and even then it seems like an odd way to cook. On the other hand if there was a scarcity of wood to create a tripod discarded rifles might be the only way to do it. The bucket is now being filled with coins. I forgot to ask Mannie how often the park clears it out. After our bad luck on the trip I was looking for anything to get us on good ground again so I left some coins. At Gettysburg I rubbed O'Rourke's nose. Mike and I were willing to do just about anything to turn our bad luck around.
And this monument, to the 124th Pennsylvania, I just liked. The soldier is in great condition, the pose and outfit are great and the background was cool too. That's Mike sitting on the left side of the monument. I guess he was kinda worn out with his big camera rig.

Sharpsburg

We tried to get some pictures of Sharpsburg but it was difficult. There were either too many trees or power lines in the shots. These are the two best pictures I got of the town.

On the walls of the library was the town crest. I thought it was pretty interesting.

Friday, May 18, 2007

AP Hill's Attack

In a previous post I showed the ford, with 3 or 4 different names, that AP Hill used to cross the Potomac to come to Lee's aid. Hill's march was nothing short of amazing. To march that many miles and then enter a battle is a tremendous feat. Lee had no reserves left to stop Burnside and if Hill hadn't shown up it probably was all over for Lee. Without trying McClellan might have won a great victory.

This tablet is near the Hawkins Zouave monument and features an old drawing of Burnside's attack, and just how close to Sharpsburg they got.
Due to the heavy number of trees that view is no longer possible but here is the view from the tablet. A few of the buildings can be seen towards the right side of the picture.
The next two pictures actually form a panorama. The top picture is the right side and the bottom is the left. This would be the view Hill had in the area that they came upon the Harper's Ferry Road from the Millers Sawmill Road. The 12th Ohio's monument can be barely seen in the top (right) picture and a few of the monuments along Branch Avenue can also be seen.

Monuments - Burnside's Attack

These were my two favorite pictures of monuments from the area of Burnside's attack. The monuments themselves are not extraordinary but the overall effect I thought was nice. The first one is the 12th Ohio's monument. It is on Burnside's left but it not too far forward. I just like how it looked with the grass, trees and fence.
And this is the 8th Connecticut's monument. It, and the nearby monument for Hawkins' Zouaves, mark the farthest Union advance. The day was getting late and the clouds were starting to look pretty neat. After this Mike and I would go back near the Sunken Road and get some great sunset shots, though we didn't stay til dark.

Thursday, May 17, 2007

Burnside's Attack

Of course once Burnside crossed his bridge his job was not done. It seems one of the bigger complaints against him, in this phase, is that he takes two hours to cross his force. Again I don't think Burnside can take too much grief here. He crossed quite a few men, including artillery and wagons, and that takes time. Also he probably has accepted at least part of what McClellan says about Lee's numbers. So Burnside probably expects that Lee is still in pretty good shape, plenty of men in reserve to deal with Burnside. If this is the situation you know then it makes perfect sense to cross your force, your whole force, and go in as one unit instead of a piecemeal attack. Of course had Burnside made a piecemeal attack it might have succeeded better than he actually did since he might have been able to penetrate closer to town. But then AP Hill might have caught Burnside in the rear and really caused destruction. Hard to say, that's why what-ifs are sometimes pointless.

In any respect the following pictures were taken along Branch Avenue, which is generally the area of Burnside's farthest advance (some units didn't get this far, a few got even closer to town). The first one is looking out towards the area Burnside's men advanced across. The cannon marks a Confederate position. The bridge is generally over the rise on the left side of the picture.
Here's the view on Burnside's left flank. There are two monuments in this picture. The second is left of center on the ridge line.
A few monuments along the road. Just liked the scene. Mike's in the picture which adds or detracts based on your feelings about Mike. (Just kidding, Mike, I still like the shot.)

Wednesday, May 16, 2007

Burnside's Bridge

I think Burnside got unfairly criticized for what happen at Rohrbach Bridge. I think Henry Kyd Douglas exaggerated when he said the Antietam could be forded anywhere. During the roundtable's study of the battle this was a part of the fighting that I presented. I don't want to go into all the details but generally I think Burnside did his job about as well as he could. His lone mistake was in not finding the true location of Snavely's Ford earlier. Had he done this then he might have taken the bridge earlier and might have put Lee in a much worse situation before AP Hill's arrival. But just about everything else Burnside did was better than historians have depicted. Here are several views of the bridge. This first one was taken from the Confederate side of the creek.
Now on the same level as the bridge but still on the Confederate side. The 51st New York monument can be seen at the end of the bridge.
Looking towards the Confederate side from the stonewall the 51st Pennsylvania used for protection during their assault.
From the Union side showing how narrow the bridge is. We lined up a row of guys and a column of four is about the best that could be done. We had 6 guys across but that was perfectly tight, no movement allowed. So to move across 4 is as wide as the formation could be.
The view from near the 11th Connecticut's monument. Some clearing of trees has been done in this area. On my previous trip I don't remember being able to see this monument but it was quite visible this time and was the reason I wandered over there.

Tuesday, May 15, 2007

Bridges Over the Antietam

Before I get to the fighting around Burnside's Bridge I thought it would be good to cover the other two bridges over the Antietam. All three were important to the Union though only the lower bridge became famous, because of its role in the day's fighting. All three bridges had been built many years before the battle by the same guy (unfortunately his name eludes me at the moment) and of the same design.

On the northern part of the battlefield is the Upper Bridge. Hooker used the Upper Bridge to cross his corps the night before the battle, and I'm pretty sure Mansfield used it too. Sumner crossed at a ford farther downstream. This bridge still stands though it clearly has had some modern alterations, like a paved road for one. We drove over this bridge a few times and luckily there was no traffic coming the other way. The locals probably thought we were crazy to be walking on it and taking pictures but they should get used to that sort of thing. Ray lost his hat at this bridge, which turned into a running joke on where Ray might recover his hat. I'm not sure how much he lamented the loss but since he got a Iron Brigade hat in the VC to replace it I was happy.

In about the middle of the battlefield sits Middle Bridge. Except the original bridge has been replaced with, gasp, a modern structure. Mike and I got some nice footage of the creek from below the bridge. The modern intrusion can be seen in the distance, its the only picture I have of the modern bridge because who really needs a picture of a modern bridge. The creek looked high, deep and fast that day. A few days later the rain poured down and Ray reported that it looked two feet higher. When I got home I checked the gauging station near Burnside's Bridge and Ray was right, the creek had risen nearly two feet over night due to that heavy rain. For a city boy from Chicago Ray sure knows his creeks.
The Lower Bridge is also an original but that is for tomorrow.

Monday, May 14, 2007

Antietam National Cemetery

As you might have realized by now I tend to visit a lot of cemeteries. Of course its impossible to bypass the national cemetery at Antietam. Here is "Old Simon" standing guard over his fallen compatriots.
This is the Wisconsin section. As Craig, a Wisconsin native, put it, "Wisconsin, section 10 in the cemetery but first in your hearts." I don't have an ancestors buried here, in fact I don't think I have any ancestors who fought at Antietam but I tend to visit the Wisconsin section in any national cemetery I visit. From the Wisconsin section I could see a huge patriotic arrangement through the trees so made a detour over there. Here is the final resting place of Patrick Howard Roy, who was killed in the attack on the USS Cole. I had forgotten he was buried here but once I saw it I remembered the story. Roy was a Sharpsburg native who was allowed to buried here even though the cemetery has been closed to new burials since 1953. Very touching to see the display his friends and family had left behind.
Just south of the national cemetery is a great view of the southern half of the battlefield. Lee used this high ground during the battle and once you see the view from outside the walls its clear why he did so.